Used 2021 GMCSierra 1500 AT4

On the Lot
at Key Cadillac of South Burlington
    Exterior Color
    Satin Steel Metallic
    Interior Color
    Jet Black With Kalahari Accents
    Odometer
    45,881 miles
    Transmission
    10-Speed Automatic
    Drivetrain
    4WD
    Engine
    3.0L I6
    VIN
    1GTU9EET6MZ246429
    Stock Number
    C62438A
    GMC Sierra 1500
    • CARFAX 1-Owner Good Value Badge

    Included Packages & Accessories

    • 3.23 Rear Axle Ratio
    • 18" x 8.5" Machined Aluminum Wheels
    • Perforated Leather-Appointed Front Seat Trim
    • Heated 2nd Row Outboard Seats
    • Power Sunroof
    • Front License Plate Kit
    • 220 Amp Alternator
    • Engine Block Heater
    • 2 USB Ports (1st Row)
    • Theft Deterrent System (Unauthorized Entry)
    • 4-Wheel Disc Brakes
    • Apple CarPlay/Android Auto
    • AM/FM radio: SiriusXM with 360L
    • Premium audio system: GMC Infotainment System
    • Auto-dimming Rear-View mirror
    • Ventilated front seats
    • Variably intermittent wipers
    • Trip computer
    • Traction control
    • Tilt steering wheel
    • Telescoping steering wheel
    • Steering wheel mounted audio controls
    • Split folding rear seat
    • Speed-sensing steering
    • Speed control
    • Security system
    • Remote keyless entry
    • Rear window defroster
    • Rear step bumper
    • Rear seat center armrest
    • Rear reading lights
    • Radio data system
    • Power windows
    • Power steering
    • Power passenger seat
    • Power driver seat
    • Power door mirrors
    • Passenger vanity mirror
    • Passenger door bin
    • Panic alarm
    • Overhead console
    • Overhead airbag
    • Outside temperature display
    • Occupant sensing airbag
    • Memory seat
    • Low tire pressure warning
    • Illuminated entry
    • Heated steering wheel
    • Heated front seats
    • Heated door mirrors
    • Fully automatic headlights
    • Front wheel independent suspension
    • Front reading lights
    • Front fog lights
    • Front dual zone A/C
    • Front anti-roll bar
    • Dual front side impact airbags
    • Dual front impact airbags
    • Driver vanity mirror
    • Driver door bin
    • Delay-off headlights
    • Bumpers: body-color
    • Brake assist
    • Automatic temperature control
    • Auto-dimming door mirrors
    • Alloy wheels
    • ABS brakes
    • Voltmeter
    • Tachometer
    • Front Center Armrest
    • Electronic Stability Control
    • Air Conditioning
    • 6 Speakers
    • Preferred Equipment Group 4SB
    • Auto-Locking Rear Differential
    • 10-Way Power Driver Seat Adjuster w/Lumbar
    • Off-Road Suspension
    • Radio: Premium GMC Infotainment Sys w/Multi-Touch
    • Radio: Premium GMC Infotainment Sys w/Navigation
    • AT4 Preferred Package
    • AT4 Value Package
    • Driver Alert Package I
    • Driver Alert Package II
    • Technology Package
    • Color-Keyed Carpeting Floor Covering
    • Front Prem Floor Liners w/Removable Carpet Insert
    • OnStar & GMC Connected Services Capable
    • 120-Volt Instrument Panel Power Outlet
    • Spray-On Pickup Bed Liner w/AT4 Logo
    • LED Cargo Area Lighting
    • Trailering Package
    • Heavy-Duty Air Filter
    • Integrated Trailer Brake Controller
    • Electric Rear-Window Defogger
    • Bed View Camera
    • Deep-Tinted Glass
    • SiriusXM w/360L
    • Driver Memory
    • Power Sliding Rear Window w/Rear Defogger
    • 10-Way Power Passenger Seat Adjuster w/Lumbar
    • GMC Connected Access Capable
    • Power Front Passenger Windows w/Express Up/Down
    • Power Rear Windows w/Express Down
    • Keyless Open & Start
    • Power Door Locks
    • Power Front Windows w/Driver Express Up/Down
    • Rear Wheelhouse Liners
    • Rear Prem Floor Liners w/Removable Carpet Insert
    • Remote Vehicle Starter System
    • Hitch Guidance
    • Floor-Mounted Center Console
    • Rear Camera Mirror
    • Body-Color Surround Grille
    • Safety Alert Seat
    • Hill Descent Control
    • Wireless Charging
    • Heated Driver & Front Outboard Passenger Seating
    • 120-Volt Bed Mounted Power Outlet
    • Auxiliary External Transmission Oil Cooler
    • 12-Volt Rear Auxiliary Power Outlet
    • Ventilated Driver & Front Passenger Seats
    • Adaptive Cruise Control
    • 170 Amp Alternator
    • 2 USB Ports
    • Electrical Lock Control Steering Column
    • Manual Tilt-Wheel & Telescoping Steering Column
    • 2-Speed Transfer Case
    • Perimeter Lighting
    • ProGrade Trailering System
    • Hitch Guidance w/Hitch View
    • IntelliBeam Automatic High Beam On/Off
    • In-Vehicle Trailering App
    • Ultrasonic Front & Rear Park Assist
    • 4.2" Diagonal Color Display Driver Info Center
    • Following Distance Indicator
    • Forward Collision Alert
    • Rear Cross Traffic Alert
    • Universal Home Remote
    • Red Recovery Hooks
    • 8" Driver Information Center
    • Lane Keep Assist w/Lane Departure Warning
    • Automatic Emergency Braking
    • Steering Wheel Audio Controls
    • Lane Change Alert w/Side Blind Zone Alert
    • Front Pedestrian Braking
    • Premium Bose 7-Speaker Sound System
    • 6-Speaker Audio System Feature
    • Rear Dual USB Charging-Only Ports
    • Multicolor 15" Diagonal Head-Up Display
    • HD Rear Vision Camera
    • HD Surround Vision w/2 Trailer View Camera Provisions
    • 4G LTE Wi-Fi Hotspot Capable
    • Compass
    • Front Bucket Seats

    Included Packages & Options

    • AT4 Value Package$2,605
      • AT4 Preferred Package
      • Driver Alert Package I
    • Technology Package$2,075
      • HD Surround Vision w/2 Trailer View Camera Provisions
      • Rear Camera Mirror
      • Bed View Camera
      • Multicolor 15" Diagonal Head-Up Display
      • 8" Driver Information Center
    • AT4 Preferred Package$1,420
      • Universal Home Remote
      • Power Sliding Rear Window w/Rear Defogger
      • Radio: Premium GMC Infotainment Sys w/Navigation
      • Premium Bose 7-Speaker Sound System
      • Wireless Charging
    • Driver Alert Package II$1,095
      • Forward Collision Alert
      • Lane Keep Assist w/Lane Departure Warning
      • Automatic Emergency Braking
      • Front Pedestrian Braking
      • IntelliBeam Automatic High Beam On/Off
      • Adaptive Cruise Control
      • Following Distance Indicator
      • Safety Alert Seat
    • Driver Alert Package I$890
      • Ultrasonic Front & Rear Park Assist
      • Lane Change Alert w/Side Blind Zone Alert
      • Rear Cross Traffic Alert
      • Perimeter Lighting
    Included Options
    • Power Sunroof$995
    • Engine Block Heater$100

    Detailed Specifications

    • 3-point seatbelt : Rear seat center 3-point seatbelt
    • ABS Brakes : 4-wheel antilock (ABS) brakes
    • Auto headlights : Auto on/off headlight control
    • Auto high-beam headlights : IntelliBeam auto high-beam headlights
    • Blind spot : Lane Change Alert with Side Blind Zone Alert blind spot warning
    • Brake assist system : Brake assist system
    • Brake type : 4-wheel disc brakes
    • Cab mounted cargo light : LED cab mounted cargo light
    • Camera : Aerial view camera
    • Child door locks : Manual rear child safety door locks
    • Delay off headlights : Delay-off headlights
    • Distance alert : Following Distance Indicator
    • Electronic stability control : StabiliTrak w/Proactive Roll Avoidance electronic stability control system with anti-roll
    • Fog lights : LED front fog lights
    • Forward collision warning : Forward Collision Alert with Automatic Braking
    • Front camera : Front mounted camera
    • Front impact airbag driver : Driver front impact airbag
    • Front impact airbag passenger : Passenger front impact airbag
    • Front side impact airbag driver : Seat mounted side impact driver airbag
    • Front side impact airbag passenger : Seat mounted side impact front passenger airbag
    • Head up display : Head-up display
    • Headlight type : Reflector headlights
    • Headlights : LED low and high beam headlights
    • High mount stop light : High mounted center stop light
    • Hill control : Hill Descent Control (HDC)
    • Hill start assist : Hill Start Assist (HSA)
    • Illuminated entry : Illuminated entry
    • Immobilizer : Immobilizer
    • Instrumentation display : Analog instrumentation display
    • Interior courtesy lights : Fade interior courtesy lights
    • LED brake lights : LED brake lights
    • Lane departure : Lane Keep Assist with Lane Departure Warning
    • Left camera : Left side camera
    • Low tire pressure warning : Tire specific low air pressure warning
    • Multiple headlights : Multiple enclosed headlights
    • Number of airbags : 6 airbags
    • Occupancy sensor : Airbag occupancy sensor
    • Overhead airbags : Curtain first and second-row overhead airbags
    • Parking sensors : UltraSonic front and rear parking sensors
    • Pedestrian detection : Front Pedestrian Braking
    • Perimeter approach lighting : Remote activated perimeter approach lighting
    • Pickup box camera : Pickup box camera
    • Rear camera : HD Rear Vision Camera w/Hitch View rear mounted camera
    • Rear collision warning : Rear Cross-Traffic Alert collision warning
    • Remote panic alarm : Remote panic alarm
    • Restricted driving mode/alerts : Teen Driver restricted driving mode/alerts
    • Right camera : Right side camera
    • Running lights : LED daytime running lights
    • Seatbelt pretensioners : Front seatbelt pretensioners
    • Seatbelt pretensioners number : 2 seatbelt pre-tensioners
    • Security system : Security system
    • Video rearview mirror : Video-feed rearview mirror
    • Air conditioning : Yes
    • Armrests front center : Front seat center armrest
    • Armrests rear : Rear seat center armrest
    • Cabback insulator : Cabback insulator
    • Climate control : Automatic climate control
    • Cooled front seats : Ventilated driver and front passenger seats
    • Door panel insert : Simulated wood and metal-look door panel insert
    • Door trim insert : Vinyl door trim insert
    • Driver lumbar : Driver seat with 2-way power lumbar
    • Driver seat direction : Driver seat with 8-way directional controls
    • Dual-zone front climate control : Dual-zone front climate control
    • Floor coverage : Full floor coverage
    • Floor covering : Full carpet floor covering
    • Floor mats : Rubber front and rear floor mats with carpet inserts
    • Folding rear seats : 60-40 folding rear seats
    • Front head restraint control : Manual front seat head restraint control
    • Front head restraints : Height adjustable front seat head restraints
    • Front passenger lumbar : Front passenger seat with 2-way power lumbar
    • Front seat upholstery : Leather front seat upholstery
    • Front seatback upholstery : Plastic front seatback upholstery
    • Gearshifter material : Urethane gear shifter material
    • Headliner coverage : Full headliner coverage
    • Headliner material : Cloth headliner material
    • Heated front seats : Heated driver and front passenger seats
    • Heated rear seats : Heated rear seats
    • Heated steering wheel : Heated steering wheel
    • Interior accents : Chrome interior accents
    • Number of memory settings : 2 memory settings
    • Panel insert : Metal-look instrument panel insert
    • Passenger seat direction : Front passenger seat with 8-way directional controls
    • Power driver seat controls : Driver seat power reclining, lumbar support, cushion tilt, fore/aft control and height adjustable control
    • Power passenger seat controls : Passenger seat power reclining, lumbar support, cushion tilt, fore/aft control and height adjustable control
    • Rear console climate control ducts : Rear console climate control ducts
    • Rear head restraint control : 2 rear seat head restraints
    • Rear head restraint control : Manual rear seat head restraint control
    • Rear head restraints : Height adjustable rear seat head restraints
    • Rear seat folding position : Fold-up rear seat cushion
    • Rear seat upholstery : Vinyl rear seat upholstery
    • Rear seatback upholstery : Carpet rear seatback upholstery
    • Rear seats : Split-bench rear seat
    • Rear seats fixed or removable : Fixed rear seats
    • Seating capacity : 5
    • Split front seats : Bucket front seats
    • Steering wheel material : Leather and metal-look steering wheel
    • Steering wheel telescopic : Manual telescopic steering wheel
    • Steering wheel tilt : Manual tilting steering wheel
    • Tinted windows : Deep tinted windows
    • 12V power outlets : 2 12V power outlets
    • Accessory power : Retained accessory power
    • Adaptive cruise control : Adaptive cruise control
    • All-in-one key : All-in-one remote fob and ignition key
    • Auto door locks : Auto-locking doors
    • Auto-dimming door mirror driver : Auto-dimming driver side mirror
    • Battery charge warning : Battery charge warning
    • Beverage holders : Front beverage holders
    • Beverage holders rear : Rear beverage holders
    • Brake pad warning : Brake pad wear indicator
    • Capless fuel filler : Capless fuel filler
    • Clock : Digital clock
    • Compass : Compass
    • Cruise control : Cruise control with steering wheel mounted controls
    • DEF fluid gauge : Diesel exhaust fluid (def) gauge
    • Day/Night rearview mirror : Day/Night rearview mirror
    • Door ajar warning : Door ajar warning
    • Door bins front : Driver and passenger door bins
    • Door bins rear : Rear door bins
    • Door locks : Power door locks with 2 stage unlocking
    • Door mirror with tilt-down in reverse : Power driver and passenger door mirrors with tilt down in reverse
    • Driver foot rest : Driver foot rest
    • Driver information center : Driver information center
    • Easy lift tailgate : EZ Lift
    • Easy lower tailgate : EZ Lower
    • Engine hour meter : Engine hour meter
    • Engine temperature warning : Engine temperature warning
    • Engine/electric motor temperature gauge : Engine/electric motor temperature gauge
    • Exterior 120V AC power outlet : 1 exterior 120V AC power outlet
    • First-row windows : Power first-row windows
    • Floor console : Full floor console
    • Floor console storage : Covered floor console storage
    • Fob engine controls : Smart key with hands-free access and push button start
    • Folding door mirrors : Power folding door mirrors
    • Front reading lights : Front reading lights
    • Garage door opener : Garage door opener
    • Glove box : Locking glove box
    • Headlights on reminder : Headlights on reminder
    • Heated door mirrors : Heated driver and passenger side door mirrors
    • Inclinometer : Inclinometer
    • Integrated tailgate step : Integrated tailgate step
    • Interior 120V AC power outlets : 1 interior 120V AC power outlet
    • Key in vehicle warning : Key in vehicle warning
    • Keyfob cargo controls : Keyfob trunk control
    • Keyfob keyless entry : Keyfob keyless entry
    • Keyfob remote start : Keyfob remote start
    • Keyfob window controls : Keyfob window control
    • Low level warnings : Low level warning for oil, coolant, fuel, washer fluid, brake fluid and diesel exhaust fluid (DEF)
    • Memory settings : Memory settings include: door mirrors
    • Number of beverage holders : 6 beverage holders
    • Oil pressure gauge : Oil pressure gauge
    • Oil pressure warning : Oil pressure warning
    • One-touch down window : Front and rear one-touch down windows
    • One-touch up window : Driver and passenger one-touch up windows
    • Overhead console : Mini overhead console
    • Overhead console storage : Overhead console storage
    • Passenger doors rear left : Conventional left rear passenger door
    • Passenger doors rear right : Conventional right rear passenger door
    • Rear cargo door : MultiPro Tailgate tailgate
    • Rear reading lights : Rear reading lights
    • Rear seat check warning : Rear seat check warning
    • Rear seat direction : Front facing rear seat
    • Rear window defroster : Rear window defroster
    • Rear windshield : Power rear windshield
    • Rearview mirror : Auto-dimming rear view mirror
    • Seatback storage pockets : 2 seatback storage pockets
    • Second-row windows : Power second-row windows
    • Service interval warning : Service interval indicator
    • Speedometer : Redundant digital speedometer
    • Steering mounted audio control : Steering wheel mounted audio controls
    • Tachometer : Tachometer
    • Tailgate control : Tailgate/power door lock
    • Temperature display : Exterior temperature display
    • Tire pressure : Tire Fill Alert tire pressure fill assist
    • Transmission fluid temperature warning : Transmission fluid temp warning
    • Transmission temperature gauge : Transmission fluid temperature gauge
    • Trip computer : Trip computer
    • Trip odometer : Trip odometer
    • Turn signal warning : Turn signal on warning
    • Under seat tray rear : Rear under seat tray
    • Variable panel light : Variable instrument panel light
    • Visor driver mirror : Driver visor mirror
    • Visor illuminated driver mirror : Illuminated driver visor mirror
    • Visor illuminated passenger mirror : Illuminated passenger visor mirror
    • Visor passenger mirror : Passenger visor mirror
    • Voltmeter : Voltmeter
    • Wipers : Variable intermittent front windshield wipers
    • Wireless device charging : Front wireless smart device charging
    • Bed extender : Pickup bed extender
    • Bed liner : Spray-in pickup bed liner
    • Bed-rail protectors : Pickup bed-rail protectors
    • Body panels : Galvanized steel/aluminum body panels with side impact beams
    • Box style : Standard style pickup box
    • Bumper rub strip front : Black front bumper rub strip
    • Bumpers front : Body-colored front bumper
    • Bumpers rear : Body-colored rear bumper
    • Door handle material : Body-colored door handles
    • Door mirror style : Black door mirrors
    • Door mirror type : Standard style side mirrors
    • Fenders : Black fender flares
    • First-row sunroof : First-row sliding and tilting glass sunroof with express open/close activation sunshade
    • Grille style : Chrome grille with body-color surround
    • In-box lighting : LED in-box lighting
    • License plate front bracket : Front license plate bracket
    • Number of doors : 4 doors
    • Paint : Metallic paint
    • Rear bumper step : CornerStep rear bumper step
    • Skid plate : 2 underbody skid plates
    • Spare tire : Full-size spare tire with steel wheel
    • Spare tire location : Crank-down spare tire
    • Special paint : Monotone paint
    • Tires : LT275/65QR18 MT BSW front and rear tires
    • Tow hooks front : 2 front tow hooks
    • Towing brake controller : Trailer brake controller
    • Towing class : Class IV tow rating
    • Towing hitch : Trailer hitch
    • Towing hitch light : Trailer hitch light
    • Towing trailer sway : Trailer Sway Control (TSC) trailer sway control
    • Towing wiring harness : Trailer wiring harness
    • Trailer light malfunction warning : GMC ProGrade Trailering System trailer light malfunction warning
    • Trailer light test : GMC ProGrade Trailering System trailer light test
    • Trailer theft alarm : GMC ProGrade Trailering System trailer theft alarm
    • Vehicle and trailer reverse assist : Trailering Assist Guidelines vehicle and trailer reverse assist with visual graphic guidance only
    • Vehicle to trailer hitching assist : Hitch Guidance vehicle to trailer hitching assist
    • Wheels : 18 x 8.5-inch front and rear machined w/painted accents aluminum wheels
    • Window Trim : Black side window trim
    • Emissions : Mass emissions
    • Emissions tiers : Tier 2 Bin 5 emissions
    • Fuel economy (city/highway/combined) : 22/26/24 MPG
    • Amplifier : Amplifier
    • Antenna : Fixed audio antenna
    • Aux input jack : Auxiliary input jack
    • External memory : Premium GMC Infotainment System external memory control
    • Internet radio capability : Internet radio capability
    • Number of first-row screens : 2 total number of 1st row displays
    • Primary display size : 8 inch primary display
    • Primary display touchscreen : Primary monitor touchscreen
    • RDS : Radio data system (RDS)
    • Radio : AM/FM/digital/SiriusXMsatellite
    • Satellite trial : 3 month satellite trial subscription
    • Seek scan : Seek scan
    • Speakers : Bose speakers
    • Speakers number : 7 speakers
    • Voice activated audio : GMC Infotainment System voice activated audio controls
    • Wireless streaming : Bluetooth wireless audio streaming
    • 4WD type : AutoTrac part and full-time 4WD
    • ABS Brakes : Four channel ABS brakes
    • Alternator Type : Alternator
    • Battery run down protection : Battery run down protection
    • Battery type : Heavy-duty lead acid battery
    • Block heater : Engine block heater
    • Compressor : Intercooled turbo
    • Cylinder head material : Aluminum cylinder head
    • Displacement : 3 L
    • Drive type : Four-wheel drive
    • Electronic parking brake : Electronic parking brake
    • Engine : Duramax 3L I-6 diesel direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, intercooled turbo, diesel, engine with 277HP
    • Engine Cylinders : I6
    • Engine Location : Front mounted engine
    • Engine Mounting direction : Longitudinal mounted engine
    • Engine block material : Aluminum engine block
    • Front anti-roll : Front anti-roll bar
    • Fuel Type : Diesel
    • Horsepower : 277 HP @3750 RPM
    • Ignition : Compression ignition system
    • Lock-up transmission : Lock-up transmission
    • Locking hub control : Auto locking hub control
    • Overdrive transmission : Overdrive transmission
    • Powertrain type : ICE
    • Radiator : Radiator
    • Rear Springs : Regular grade rear springs
    • Rear locking differential : Automatic rear locking differential
    • Selectable mode transmission : Tow/Haul Mode selectable mode transmission
    • Sequential shift control : Sequential shift control
    • Shock absorbers : Rancho shock absorbers
    • Speed sensitive steering : Speed sensitive power steering
    • Springs front : Front coil springs
    • Springs rear : Rear leaf springs
    • Start-stop engine : Auto stop-start engine
    • Steering : Electric power-assist steering system
    • Steering type : Rack-pinion steering
    • Suspension : Off-road ride suspension
    • Suspension ride type front : Independent front suspension
    • Suspension ride type rear : Rigid axle rear suspension
    • Suspension type front : Short and long arm front suspension
    • Suspension type rear : Leaf spring rear suspension
    • Tailpipe : Stainless steel quasi-dual exhaust with polished tailpipe finisher
    • Traction control : All-speed ABS and driveline traction control
    • Transfer case : Electronic transfer case shift
    • Transmission : 10-speed automatic
    • Transmission Type : Automatic
    • Transmission electronic control : Transmission electronic control
    • Valves per cylinder : 4
    • Variable intake manifold : Variable intake manifold
    • Ventilated brakes : Front and rear ventilated disc brakes
    • Handsfree : Bluetooth handsfree wireless device connectivity
    • Integrated navigation : Integrated navigation system
    • Internet access : 4G LTE Wi-Fi Hotspot capable mobile hotspot internet access
    • Smart device integration : Apple CarPlay/Android Auto smart device mirroring
    • USB ports : 6 USB ports

    Dealer Notes

    Priced below KBB Fair Purchase Price! 10-Speed Automatic, 4WD, Jet Black With Kalahari Accents Leather. CARFAX One-Owner. Clean CARFAX. Satin Steel Metallic 2021 GMC Sierra 1500 AT4 4WD 10-Speed Automatic 3.0L I6

    The Best Service, The Best Selection, The Best Price...The Difference is Key! Odometer is 15151 miles below market average! 22/26 City/Highway MPG

    KBB.com Consumer Reviews

    Kelley Blue Book - KBB.com
    Overall4Out of 5
    • Nice truck

      By froggy on Sunday, December 06, 2020

      3.0
      I purchased this truck brand new and at 3900 miles I started to have a misfire. The warranty put a refurbished rebuilt engine in it. I was not aware that the warranty doesn't put new parts in just refurbished rebuilt parts. I traded in and lost my favorite blue truck. Not a fan of the whole process. Love the truck just not how the warranty went. I would not own another brand or model the 2020 is the nicest riding and looking. Just got a bad motor from the manufacture.
    • Great Truck

      By Mel on Sunday, April 25, 2021

      5.0
      I love it, I get compliments every where I go, and it apparently worth more than I paid for it brand new, a year and a half later. can't ask for much more than that.
    • Well done GM

      By Tony on Thursday, November 26, 2020

      5.0
      This truck has a 10 speed transmission that you can barely feel it shift. Traded in an F150 and test drove a similar equipped Ram. Although the Ram was nice, the styling of the GMC won me over, along with the tailgate! It also pulls my boat way better than the Ford, just smoother all around. The cabin is very quiet and the gas mileage is much better than V8 Ford. The cabin is super quiet and the ride is awesome. Love the adaptive cruise control too. The technology is fine and the screen is plenty big. Remember, you are driving this truck, not going to thr drive in! Most importantly, the controls are simple to use and Bose stereo sounds great! Oh, and I got it cheaper than the similar Ram too!